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Anonymous asked: Trisha was never prettily ~sitting~away~ she was a busy single mother who was taking care of two kids, winry and Trisha were both hard workers

hippity-hoppity-brigade:

I know. I’m definitely not saying that being a housewife is bad or weak or unfeminist. But most of what we see of Trisha is a) in flashbacks, and b) as a gentle, supportive mother figure. She’s a passive figure whose death is meant to provide manpain to her husband and sons. 

Winry is a character with her own backstory, plots, and motivations. She disagrees with people; she gets angry; she cries when things go wrong. Winry is a fully developed character, and her existence does not rely on Ed and Al. Unlike Trisha, Winry can and does exist, and even thrive, without them. 

ok, i didn’t want to confront you or anything since i felt like you were just shootin’ off in your original post rather than asking for real discussion, but now you’re seeming to fail to get what the issue is with your original post. 

I absolutely agree that the fact Trisha’s character mainly serves as a mother/wife figure through the lens of the living men in her family, so they can remember her in an idealized fashion and angst is problematic. She is definitely underexplored and underdeveloped as a character, compared to  basically most of the other characters, including Winry. That should be criticized and is an undeniable flaw in the text.

That, however, was not what you were complaining about at all in this post. You explicitly said Trisha was somehow lesser for being drawn wearing a skirt (and Winry would be to) (wtf) and that Trisha sat prettily by the window and waited (which is patently untrue, she was an extremely hard worker). Neither of these are real issues from our context at the very least and both of them are problematic things to say. Saying Winry wearing a skirt undercuts her being dedicated to her career as a mechanic somehow, that it automatically makes her Trisha 2.0, and moreover wearing a skirt=being like Trisha= being passive and not hardworking and just waiting around is like??? I don’t even know where to start???

actually I do, because I did a post on the subject

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Note that Winry is shown working on automail while wearing a skirt. There is absolutely nothing “bad” or impractical or undercutting of her as a character about this- clearly when Winry does “light” automail work, she throws an apron over her clothes (which are usually skirts because Winry likes skirts! and automail! at the same time! radical!). When it’s heavy junk, she puts on coveralls/sports-bra ensemble.

Meanwhile PINAKO WEARS A DRESS AND APRON WHILE WORKING ON AUTOMAIl 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. Pinako, whose character is pretty much mostly defined by having an obstinate, contrary personality and being a good and dedicated mechanic, but is also clearly someone who is dedicated to her family and a bit domestic. Winry is Pinako 2.0. if she’s taking up the legacy of anyone (especially considering she explicitly refers to her gran as her idol and mentor in the guidebook).

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Winry was wearing a skirt when she welcomed Ed and Al back in the manga, is she somehow lesser because of this?

And on a side note, any discussion of Trisha that implies she is never shown getting frustrated/angry or disagreeing with her family in the text is factually wrong. 

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Not as significantly as Winry, no, but it’s not like she never scolded anyone.

Moreover, a discussion of Trisha shouldn’t leave out that her values/teachings are shown to have shaped Ed and Al’s personality pretty significantly, both in regards to value for life and for Ed, even specifically how he relates to Al/shows affection for others.

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So yeah. A discussion of how Trisha functions in the narrative and the ways in which she is underexplored and underdeveloped is important. Unfortunately, you were not doing that.

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this is a thing i have to say, apparently.

I’m going to point out that Winry is entirely capable of choosing to work on automail while wearing an apron and skirt ensemble quite similar to Trisha’s and more importantly (from her pov I’d imagine) her grandmother. It’s what she was wearing during the Promised day while clearly working on automail, considering she dropped several tools. it is actually all Pinako ever wears while working on automail. Wearing a sundress /=/ sitting prettily by the window and not working on your career. 

When Winry is doing heavy automail work- like on the level or rebuilding, stuff where she’ll be a mess, she wears her coveralls. This is what we see her in most often. However, when she’s doing light mechanical work, she just throws an apron on over clothes. Whether they happen to be jeans or a skirt, it doesn’t matter- but it’s usually a skirt, because, here’s a revelation- Winry likes skirts. 

http://butterflies-in-my—brain.tumblr.com/post/66854524617

Shocking information apparently, but if you look over all the official art, she overwhelmingly gravitates towards sundresses and the like when working at home, with her miniskirt/jacket/boots ensemble being her “city” outfit. Arakawa actually stated a preference in her art book towards the bare legs/sandal/sundress thing so i imagine that’s the actual only reason why.

This does not make any statement about Winry other than she likes skirts. Winry has always liked automail and always had a very girly side too. This has always been part of her character. She also grew up around women who dressed a certain way, so it friggin’ makes sense she’d dress a little like Trisha and her gran- they live in the same area. Dressing a certain way does not…state anything…at all about a character’s archetype or career aspirations, about how hard she works or whether she’s sitting around ~waitiing~ at home. 

Moreover, Trisha was incredibly hardworking. Most of the times we see her in the manga, she’s got a broom in her hands, she’s doing laundry, she’s cooking, she’s picking vegetables (SEE HOW SHE DROPPED A BUNCH WHEN SHE COLLAPSED)- she never ~sat prettily~ at home. She was raising two kids and she worked incredibly hard at it, to the point where Ed claimed she might have overworked herself to the point it contributed to her early death (which is likely just him being a melodromatic lil self-guilt tripper but it shows he noticed she worked really hard). Moreover, as another poster pointed out, she said she didn’t spend any of the money Hohenheim left, which implies either she was so self-sufficient she spent zero money or she was earning it somehow (i’d imagine the fact she seems to grow her own vegetables had something to do with it- maybe she also sold them.) 

So uh. Winry never sat prettily waiting by a window, neither did Trisha, they are both very hardworking and dedicated and wearing a skirt has nothing whatsoever to do with “not being hardworking or career focused or a machine freak.”

The end!

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catsofamestris:

THAT was a hectic day. 
Cats sure like playing with my hair. We thought Whiskers and Black Hayate would fight, but they actually got along pretty well! And the cats really like Lieutentant Hawkeye (and her dog food. Kitties, that’s not for you! Haha what sillies.)
However, cats don’t seem to like the Colonel  any better than they like Brother.
Gosh, Dad, could you please at least TRY to look at the camera? Though I suppose we should all be grateful he wasn’t crying…
And of course, Brother’s about to land on his face as usual. We can never take a good picture.

catsofamestris:

THAT was a hectic day. 

Cats sure like playing with my hair. We thought Whiskers and Black Hayate would fight, but they actually got along pretty well! And the cats really like Lieutentant Hawkeye (and her dog food. Kitties, that’s not for you! Haha what sillies.)

However, cats don’t seem to like the Colonel  any better than they like Brother.

Gosh, Dad, could you please at least TRY to look at the camera? Though I suppose we should all be grateful he wasn’t crying…

And of course, Brother’s about to land on his face as usual. We can never take a good picture.

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allypallycally1:

This scene though…

allypallycally1:

This scene though…

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adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

Ed: “Alchemist with high blood pressure”
Winry: “Creator and Destroyer”
Pinako: “Sexy and in charge”
Armstrong: “Beautiful muscles that kill” (WHEN DID YOU GET NIPPLES)
Black Hayate: “Sprouting Mangy Cub”

i just feel the need to remind everyone that this exists it was a thing arakawa drew

adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

Ed: “Alchemist with high blood pressure”

Winry: “Creator and Destroyer”

Pinako: “Sexy and in charge”

Armstrong: “Beautiful muscles that kill” (WHEN DID YOU GET NIPPLES)

Black Hayate: “Sprouting Mangy Cub”

i just feel the need to remind everyone that this exists it was a thing arakawa drew

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adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

FMA Ladies: First and last on-panel appearances- not counting the epilogue page, since those were photographs and Izumi’s face was partially covered by a dialogue box so…

It was actually hard to figure out whether I should use Winry and Pinako’s last appearances in the main story, or if I should include the side story that was published after the last chapter, which would really technically be their last appearance in manga canon. So in the interest of thoroughness, I did both

And there you go!

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FMA Ladies: First and last on-panel appearances- not counting the epilogue page, since those were photographs and Izumi’s face was partially covered by a dialogue box so…

It was actually hard to figure out whether I should use Winry and Pinako’s last appearances in the main story, or if I should include the side story that was published after the last chapter, which would really technically be their last appearance in manga canon. So in the interest of thoroughness, I did both

And there you go!

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catsofamestris:

Let’s all celebrate the glorious day I turned the comic con into a CAT comic con. See if you can count them all!
(I’m not sure why anyone would want to make a robot of Brother, the human one is hard enough to deal with on his own. But I sure do rock a mohawk)

catsofamestris:

Let’s all celebrate the glorious day I turned the comic con into a CAT comic con. See if you can count them all!

(I’m not sure why anyone would want to make a robot of Brother, the human one is hard enough to deal with on his own. But I sure do rock a mohawk)

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All the Fullmetal Alchemist manga and Brotherhood pictures I could find related to Christmas and other snow holiday funtimes.

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