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Female Representation in Starkid

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thingsilearnedfromstarkid:

To begin talking about this issue, let me set a scene for you. Let’s say you’ve been petrified and are lying in the Hospital Wing, but as is mentioned later in the storyline, you can see and hear what’s going on. Your boyfriend comes in and gets a musical number while you just lie there. When he’s finished, he’s trying to figure out how to save you, and someone else comes in. A guy. The guy you rejected six years ago, but who continues to hit on you constantly. He talks to your boyfriend. They come to an arrangement: if the one you rejected helps your boyfriend save you, they can both date you.

 

“But wait!” you want to yell. “What the hell is this? What about what I want?” But you can’t say anything, because you’ve been petrified. Your boyfriend made the choice for you, and what you want doesn’t matter.

 

I’m sure those of you who’ve seen AVPSY remember this scene. (Although I made up the parts about what Hermione was thinking, obviously.) Well, it was the last straw for me. I could handle February, and Holy Musical B@man. But watching a character who I used to idolize, a character who many girls and women identify with, one of best female characters in mainstream literature, be treated like this? It was too much. What she wanted wasn’t relevant to the scene, and nobody ever even suggested that that wasn’t okay.

 

There are no female writers for Team Starkid, which is probably why they didn’t think about this. How are Nick and Matt Lang supposed to know how much Hermione has meant to so many of us? How are they supposed to know that a smart girl who doesn’t take shit and isn’t presented as undesirable is a rarity, and one that you don’t mess with? This objectification of  Hermione takes all she’s done as a character for so many women, and says that none of that is as important as a plot move that is nonsensical at best. This is why I get upset when the writers of TV shows and movies are exclusively male. It’s not because I don’t think men can write good stories. It’s because they aren’t going to recognize the importance of characters like Hermione.

 

In the process of writing this, I thought a lot about things that have bugged me about Starkid musicals. First of all, did anyone notice that Holy Musical B@man didn’t pass the Bechdel Test? Yikes! (For those of y’all who don’t know, for something to pass the Bechdel Test, it needs to pass three sets of criteria: 1. There are at least two named female characters, 2. They talk to each other at some point, 3. About something other than a guy.)

 

Another important thing to acknowledge is that many of the female characters seem significantly flatter than the male ones. It’s hard to notice at first, because everyone’s set up as a caricature, especially in the parody musicals. But the male characters break out of that; Harry and Voldemort both sing several songs that remind us of their personhood, and Ron gets Sidekick and the lead in Voldemort is Going Down. And while Hermione gets Coolest Girl, that’s one of only four female solos in all of Starkid productions. (I counted—see end of essay for list.) Ron and Harry develop as characters, and Batman and Superman work out their differences.  Meanwhile, Ginny and Hermione are mostly there for laugh value, especially Ginny, who in the musicals is one of the most poorly written characters I’ve ever laid eyes on.

 

The original musicals do a little better.  Sure, we get stuck with February and Tiffany, but in Me and My Dick, Sally has almost as large a role as Joey, and Starship’s Taz is amazing. But even with that in mind, they do fall short. Yes, Taz is kickass, but she doesn’t have much personality beyond that surface, and she certainly doesn’t get her own story arc. Bug gets a story arc. Commander Up gets a story arc. Taz, who is arguably at least as important as Up, is there to provide a sort of intense energy. The smartest character, Specs, is also a girl, but they minimalize her so much that I didn’t realize that at first. Really, would it be that hard to have a character be smart and also noticeably female?

 

Sally gets a storyline, but doesn’t have much personality besides being unpopular and self-conscious. Of the women in Me and My Dick, Miss Cooter is the character who holds most true, although I do think it’s funny to say that Team Starkid’s best female character is a vagina. Still, she’s sweet, and strong, and has her own story arc that involves her fighting for her love interest. Definite props to Miss Cooter. I’ll also say that while Me and My Dick doesn’t have any solos sung by women, it only has one solo sung by a man (Listen to Your Heart.) Most of the songs are duets, and there ARE duets in which both characters are female. (For the purposes of this, I’m counting the vaginas as female, even though two are played by men.)

 

Now, I suppose there are those of you that have been reading this thinking, “But what about Little White Lie?” The answer to that question is, “Yes! Little White Lie!” I haven’t been counting that as one of Team Starkid’s musicals, because it a) was written pre-Starkid, and b) because it isn’t a musical in the strictest sense of the word. I think Little White Lie does a decent job, although that on its own is a little depressing, since that means they’ve gone downhill in terms of female representation. I’d argue that Tanya is a pretty flat character, but they did a decent job writing Sami. She, more than many of their characters, seems like girls I know.

 

What I’m trying to say here isn’t that Team Starkid is bad. I wouldn’t have a tumblr dedicated to them if that was what I thought. What I’m trying to say is that I don’t think a team of all male writers are the best people to be writing female characters in general, and that these writers in particular make mistakes that I find hurtful. There are times when I actively don’t want to watch their musicals because I’m not feeling up to having to build up a thick skin just to get through them. Nick and Matt Lang (and Eric Kahn Gale, who’s worked with them on several of the projects) are brilliant writers, and I wish they’d channel that to work on fleshing out their female characters.  While I’m excited about Twisted, I’d be even more excited if they parodied a Disney Princess film, or The Hunger Games. I wish they’d think more about female characters, and I wish they’d remember that teenage girls make up the majority of their audience, so maybe they should cater to us a little more by giving us girls like us.

 

 Here’s to hoping that in the future, they can also give us the female characters who we can look up to. They’ve got amazing actresses that to work with. Here’s to hoping that they give them a chance to play characters worthy of their ability.

 

Now, I want to hear what you think. If you reblog this and add a response, positive or negative, I’ll read it. (Unless you’re clearly being a troll or are incredibly rude.) You are also welcome to send me asks telling me what your opinion is.

 

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Solos Sung by Male Characters:

Harry’s song about Ginny/Cho (AVPM)

Hey Dragon (AVPM)

Listen to Your Heart  (MAMD, mostly solo with Joey added towards end)

Not Over Yet (AVPS, mostly solo with some ensemble towards end)

To Have a Home (AVPS)

I Wanna Be… (Starship, mostly solo with ensemble towards end)

Life (Starship)

Status Quo (Starship)

Beauty (Starship, mostly solo with some ensemble)

Kick it up a Notch Reprise (Starship)

Gilderoy (AVPSY, mostly solo with ensemble towards end)

Get in My Mouth (AVSPY, mostly solo with backup towards end)

Sidekick (AVPSY)

Goin’ Back to Hogwarts Reprise (AVPSY)

 

Solos Sung by Female Characters:

Harry (AVPM)

Coolest Girl (AVPS)

Stutter (AVPS, female character but acted by guy)

Get Back Up (Starship, mostly solo with backup towards end.)

 

I didn’t include Little White Lie because I don’t count it as a musical, and it’s complicated to figure out which songs count and which don’t.

 

Excellent. :) 

(tw: rape)

I think it stands to be pointed out that this musical also had Hermione apparently get (at the VERY least) sexually assaulted by Filch

when she was Petrified

it was mentioned as a joke. 

They’ve had a rape joke before, with Umbridge, and I didn’t like that at all.

But to have Hermione get raped as a joke?

Hermione is really important to me for the reasons stated above. That was a punch in the fucking gut, and is why I won’t be rewatching that musical, or watching any other Starkid stuff

I couldn’t even talk about it. I just…

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Damn.

I thought I reblogged the original video, but looking back, I didn’t. Here it is!

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irresistible-revolution:

I’m really uncomfortable with the discussion going on about the Cho Chang poem. It seems the girl made a mistake about the origin/ ethnicty of Cho Chang’s name and so people’s focus is entirely on that instead of the very valid points she’s making about Harry Potter. Not all Asian women have the same experience across the diaspora and she’s speaking from a very specific experience of growing up in a white-dominant culture with only stereotypes and fetishes to represent her, a culture that takes for granted the supposed “natural” submission of Asian women. I’m not saying we shouldn’t critique the poem or that we should leave her mistakes intact but we also shouldn’t throw out the proverbial baby with the bathwater because she’s making some legitimate points about a narrative that’s almost universally adored. And let me tell you as a WOC in fandom it takes major guts to speak about race in a beloved text when said text is by written by a white person and features white protagonists. And the HP fandom is no exception when it comes to racism/whitewashing/ erasure/ tokenizing etc.

JK Rowling is many things, but an expert at engaging institutional oppression she isn’t. Like most white writers who write fantasy fiction she’s very ignorant about the dynamics of race and privilege. I say this as someone who loves Harry Potter. HP is not a great example for POC representation at all, in fact it has some very problematic tropes (don’t even get me started on Voldermort’s pet snake Nagini)

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this is very literally harry potter if harry potter was all girls

like super literally wassup femharry wassup still-a-girl Hermione how ya doin femdraco

good thing being all about girls is the surefire way to improve any part of harry potter

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If I ever doubted that Steph as actually me, this washed away all doubt.

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pulsifers:

snorting through my sobs
potter, please.
you’re twelve. no one cares about a twelve-year-old enough to be archenemies with them except maybe voldemort but then again he’s also the man who agreed to live on the back of other man’s head.
weird notion of “most powerful wizardry”, if you ask me.
and really, potter, are you actually that dense
can’t you see it written all across malfoy’s unhumanly large forehead that he just wants to be bffs with you
are you sure you’ve never banged your head on the ceiling of that stupid cupboard because i’m thinking brain damage here, sir

#omg i love that the over-inflated self importance applies to both of them like draco would TOTALLY consider himself potter’s archnemesis because it’s better than being his nobody meanwhile tom riddle is crying his deformed spirit baby self to sleep at night and anytime in between because what is he chopped liver? so sad how this changes after GOF like as soon as old voldermortz has a body again harry’s like SORRY MALFOY BIGGER PROBLEMS YOU UNDERSTAND and draco is like I MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ugh the worst kind of transgression I THOUGHT THIS ARCHRIVALRY MEANT SOMETHING TO YOU POTTER and sirius dies and voldy truly becomes the sole recipient of harry’s rage I SAID I WAS BUSY MALFOY!!!!!! but malfoy’s dedicated antagonism is still this lovely comforting white noise throughout it all until it ISN’T and despite everything else he has to worry about harry’s like YOU GUYS I THINK MALFOY IS UP TO SOMETHING…. SOMETHING EVIL because obviously anything that distracts draco from their archrivalry is evil (see: voldemort in harry’s case) except draco doesn’t have time for HIM anymore and oh ho ho the tables turn and harry stays up late watching draco on the marauder’s map and thinking about his hair and basically voldemort is just the worst kind of cockblock

i don’t even ship it but im laughing so hard
their rivalry is so ridiculous

thegestianpoet:

pulsifers:

snorting through my sobs

potter, please.

you’re twelve. no one cares about a twelve-year-old enough to be archenemies with them except maybe voldemort but then again he’s also the man who agreed to live on the back of other man’s head.

weird notion of “most powerful wizardry”, if you ask me.

and really, potter, are you actually that dense

can’t you see it written all across malfoy’s unhumanly large forehead that he just wants to be bffs with you

are you sure you’ve never banged your head on the ceiling of that stupid cupboard because i’m thinking brain damage here, sir

#omg i love that the over-inflated self importance applies to both of them like draco would TOTALLY consider himself potter’s archnemesis because it’s better than being his nobody meanwhile tom riddle is crying his deformed spirit baby self to sleep at night and anytime in between because what is he chopped liver? so sad how this changes after GOF like as soon as old voldermortz has a body again harry’s like SORRY MALFOY BIGGER PROBLEMS YOU UNDERSTAND and draco is like I MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ugh the worst kind of transgression I THOUGHT THIS ARCHRIVALRY MEANT SOMETHING TO YOU POTTER and sirius dies and voldy truly becomes the sole recipient of harry’s rage I SAID I WAS BUSY MALFOY!!!!!! but malfoy’s dedicated antagonism is still this lovely comforting white noise throughout it all until it ISN’T and despite everything else he has to worry about harry’s like YOU GUYS I THINK MALFOY IS UP TO SOMETHING…. SOMETHING EVIL because obviously anything that distracts draco from their archrivalry is evil (see: voldemort in harry’s case) except draco doesn’t have time for HIM anymore and oh ho ho the tables turn and harry stays up late watching draco on the marauder’s map and thinking about his hair and basically voldemort is just the worst kind of cockblock

i don’t even ship it but im laughing so hard

their rivalry is so ridiculous

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a post about the subtitles on my harry potter vcd

jaymhensley:

so i found my old vcd-copy of harry potter and the chamber of secrets and… i don’t know what’s more entertaining, the movie or the subtitles.

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k9feline asked: Hermione Granger

* why i like them: asdfghhjkl; WHERE DO I FUCKING START i mean this girl is my fuckin’ childhood hero. She is so fucking smart and she’s passionate about injustice and when she’s pissed off she will freaking end you and she’s emotional and she gets stressed out and cracks under pressure LIKE ME but she never gives up and she’s so brave and versatile!!! She’s sort of scarily manipulative and ruthless in her schemes too and I actually love that.

I think my absolute favorite thing about her is people- from her friends to her teachers to ministry officials to bad guys- will try to tell her she’s stupid, call her silly, do everything to stop her from speaking her mind and she never listens. She always speaks her mind and she doesn’t let anyone dictate who she should be. She faces everything and she keeps being who she is and being proud of who she is, which considering the sheer amount of shit she goes through, is the bravest thing.

She doesn’t let anyone shame her for her family. She stuck with Harry even when Ron left because she was dedicated to saving the world. And she fought for her right to exist and her right to speak out, and flourished because of her intelligence and versatility.

It also meant a lot to me as a little girl that after she spent that night where everyone fawned over how gorg she looked when she dressed up, she was just back to normal the next day and decided that it was fun, but too much of a bother to do every day, and it didn’t matter to her. I was really insecure about my looks back then so that meant a lot to me. To have a girl do the Hollywood Transformation and then just decide “no i actually like how I look normally it’s not a big deal”? That actually impacted me.


* why i don’t: She can be closeminded and overly selfrighteous, as well as vicious. She can also be really dogmatic. How she treated the house elves is a demonstration of this.

* favorite episode/scene: ???!!! so many! I liked it when she set up the DA in OotP, or set up Harry’s interview and was just all smug at Rita the whole time. The plan she came up with in OotP to save Harry from Umbridge. When she slapped Draco in PoA, or saved the day with the Time Turner. But the seventh book, where she withstood torture, or saved everyone by Dissaparating, or asdfjkl; so many scenes she’s so amazing

* favorite season/movie/arc: I feel like she had really grown into herself in the last book and got to kick some major ass and Harry and Ron gave her her props for once. She was just so amazing and dependable and determined. 

* favorite line: oh gosh there are lot. “Mudblood and proud” showed her growth a lot. There’s also the funnier ones like ““I hope you’re pleased with yourselves. We could all have been killed - or worse, expelled.”  and “Twitchy little ferret, aren’t you, Malfoy?” (BAMF) and “YOU SORT OF HAVE A SAVING PEOPLE THING” and “You told us once before we had time to turn back if we wanted to. We’ve had time, haven’t we?” THIS FLAWLESS INDIVIDUAL I SWEAR.

* otp: Ron. I also like Hermione/Ginny tho.
* favorite platonic relationships: Harry, Ginny,Neville
* head canon: I always figure she and her parents had kinda a strained relationship- they were probably pretty distant from her and academic parents to begin with, and being in Hogwarts made it worse. She probably could not confide in them much about her life. I think after she restored their memories post-DH, there was a lot of fallout to deal with and they sort of had to rebuild their relationship.
* unpopular opinion: Pretty much anything is an unpopular opinion in HP Fandom. But I consider her and Ginny BFFs and love them togeeeether.

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kingcarnivore:

roguehearted:

meajora:

The Remarkably Thorough Harry Potter Character Test

MAD-EYE MOODY. omfg

I got Hermione? :D Really? :DD Aaaa.

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Fred and George Weasley :D 

Same as Leah. :3 Though I relate to Ginny a lot more. :<

I GOT HERMIONE. YESSSSSSSSS

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